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13 July 2007 @ 09:58 pm
Bellatrix Lestrange: Sadist, or No?  
The sad truth about Bellatrix Lestrange. (sort of)



Yes, if you're the average Harry Potter fan, after reading "The Order of the Phoenix", you might be getting some ideas about my dear Bellatrix Lestrange. She's a sadist, she's a crazed murderer, she's cruel, she cannot be forgiven! These are some of the ridiculous claims made against lovely Bella. I'm here to prove that these claims are erroneous.

Yes, it is true that Bellatrix tortured Neville Longbottom's parents into insanity. Sure, she was a Death Eater, and a very proud one at that. And yes, at the top of fans' lists, she killed Sirius Black. However, she had reason to do all these things, rest assured. I have theories to prove her innocence.

Number one: the torturing (using of the Cruciatus Curse) on Alice and Frank Longbottom. Yes, this was pretty cold... after all, Alice was in a right state at St. Mungo's when Harry, Ron and Hermione saw here there. Okay, this looks pretty bad, I know, but I swear, I have arguments! Okay, well, if you were already working for the Dark Lord (for who knows whatever reason), and he told you to do something... um... you do it. Or you die. Can we really blame poor Bella for wanting to follow the orders of the Dark Lord... or die? I certainly would if I wanted to live... but... I wouldn't be a Death Eater in the first place! Ahahah... let's carry on, shall we?

Okay, now let's look at some possibilities as to WHY Bellatrix became a Death Eater. We know that she and her sisters, Narcissa and Andromeda, were both born under the Noble and Most Ancient House of Black. This is our first clue. Her mum taught her the pureblood superiority when she was very young, so her mind was already trained to think like that. No child is born a racist, people!!! Anyway, when she left school she married this guy, Rodolphus Lestrange. It was after that that they got interested in the work of the Dark Lord and both became Death Eaters. Now, how do we know that Bella knew nothing of this before, and this... Rudolph guy or whatever, like... forced her or encouraged her to join? If she had never gotten married to Mr. Red-Nosed-Reindeer or whatever his name is, Bellatrix may never have turned into such a sadistic bitch!!
As for her love of Unforgivable Curses... a simple addiction to power. It's human nature, actually, to enjoy committing acts that make us feel like we have more power than others, and, obviously, the Curses fall into that category, cause with them you DO have more power. It's no more sadistic than people with control issues... or politics, for that matter. Well, actually, I take that back. Politics are WAY sadistic. Anyway, moving on, once more!

Plus, on a weirder note, Bella doesn't trust Snape. This makes her smart, no? Okay, back on topic....

All those long years in Azkaban took her love for power and the Unforgivable Curses to the next level, and by the time she escaped, poor Bellatrix was barking mad. She had gone to the next level of insanity, and could no longer control her thoughts, actions or reactions regarding spellwork. She was craving using magic, and wanted to use it lots. Kind of like a crack addict wants lots and lots of crack after they haven't had it in a while.

Right, now about Sirius... this is perhaps the most upsetting event to fans... However, even though she was responsible for his death, by stunning him and making him fall through the veil, but she didn't actually kill him. If he had fallen somewhere else, he'd still be alive. But I dunno, maybe she would have killed him anyway after that, who knows? See, she learned to hate Sirius from her horrid mother, who hated him too, obviously. So really, it's all a passed-on thing. Entirely not Bella's fault.

So, in summarization, this whole thing can be blamed on Bella's mum, addiction to power, that Rudolph guy, and sheer stupidity and under-examination of my fandom!
And with that note, the defense rests.
 
 
 
yohopiratesyohoyohopiratesyoho on July 14th, 2007 06:44 am (UTC)
I don't buy it. I see how you adore Bella though, because I do too. She is my favorite crazy bitch in the whole world, alternate universe or no. And you do make some good points (no one's born a racist, she doesn't trust Snape)... but I think when it comes down to it, she really wanted those things. Also, when she tortured the Longbottoms, it was more than just doing what she's told. It was fun for her. She had to have wanted to inflict pain or it wouldn't have worked. So, anyway, I see your points, but maybe let's just stick to loving our crazy sadistic bitch just the way she is: crazy and sadistic.
Robin: Positively Slytherinrobin777 on July 14th, 2007 07:18 am (UTC)
Okay, well, if you were already working for the Dark Lord (for who knows whatever reason), and he told you to do something... um... you do it. Or you die. Can we really blame poor Bella for wanting to follow the orders of the Dark Lord... or die?

Bellatrix, Rodolphus, Rabastan and Barty Crouch Jr were not under orders when they attacked the Longbottoms. They did this after his defeat hoping to learn the whereabouts of the Dark Lord.

I personally feel that Bellatrix joined because she wanted to. She loves the power. She is also incredibly strong and I don't believe for one minute she would do anything just because her husband wanted her too.

I do agree nobody is born a racist. You are influenced by your parents. Just remember Andromeda had the same parents but she made her own choice. Just like Bella did.
pixie AKA Maleficent: noble and most ancientstatic_pixie on July 14th, 2007 03:58 pm (UTC)
Well, but for the record, if Ted Tonks hadn't come along, chance are Andromeda wouldn't have made the choice she did. If her goal really was to leave the family, she'd have done it, but she didn't do it until love made her. I'm not saying she'd have been a Death Eater (because I doubt it, after all, Narcissa's not) but I think she probably would have made one of those 'acceptable pureblood marriages' and have remained in contact with her family.

Not to say that Bellatrix didn't have a choice, she did. But I think Andromeda's leaving gets confused with Sirius's leaving and the difference is, Sirius left the family by choice; Andromeda left because they gave her no other choice if she wanted to stay with Tonks.
ebailey140 on July 16th, 2007 08:11 am (UTC)
Have to disagree about Andromeda (naturally). She'd made her decision not to join the Death Eaters. She was disenchanted with Tom all on her own (as charismatic and interesting as she found the guy). Marrying Ted was just the exclamation point, I think.

A major theme in this series is choice, doing what is right or what is easy. There are many mirrors in this series (Harry and Tom, Hermione and Luna, Ron and Draco, Sirius and Severus), and I expect one of the big ones is Bellatrix and Andromeda, rather than Bellatrix and Narcissa, which is popularly assumed. They may even turn out to be twins.

An interesting thing I've found with the Black sisters is their name meanings. Bellatrix, of course, means "female warrior" and is a celestial body. Andromeda means "Ruler of Men" and is also a celestial body, a constellation representing an Amazon Queen to the ancient Greeks. The constellation, to the Egyptians and Mesopotamians represented Astarte/Ishtar, Goddess of Love and War. The Greeks ended up adapting some of Astarte/Ishtar's mythology into their own Andromeda, leading to the Perseus myth. But, Bellatrix's and Andromeda's names both represent warrior women, only Andromeda's also has the Love aspect to balance the War one. Narcissa ends up the odd sister out, having a name that's neither celestial nor represnting a warrior woman.

So, I can see Bellatrix and Andromeda representing "the Path Not Taken" for the other. Bellatrix took the easy path of never questioning her family's beliefs and following a powerful leader. Andromeda chose the right, but far more difficult, path of questioning things and following her own lead, even if it took her away from everything she ever knew.

Of course, knowing this very nice muggleborn boy helped in proving her family and the Dark Lord were full of it...
pixie AKA Maleficent: noble and most ancientstatic_pixie on July 16th, 2007 04:18 pm (UTC)
I think Narcissa and Lily are also mirrors, actually. It would explain the inconsistency of Narcissa's name and the way she behaved in book 6. ^^

I don't know that Bellatrix necessarily did what was easy or what was even wanted. After all, even Sirius (who carried incredible bias) did say his parents supported Regulus's decision until they realized exactly how Voldemort intended to gain power. I think that if Bellatrix did what was easy, Narcissa would have done the same because Narcissa strikes me as someone who's not particularly keen on going against the grain, meaning she'd have become a Death Eater and fought alongside her sister. But she hasn't because while it conforms to some extent with the family's views, I doubt it was something her mother would have wanted for her daughters any more than Sirius's mother ended up wanting it for her son. So I think that Bellatrix's choice was still a rather headstrong, extreme one, even if it was technically in keeping with her family's values.

As for Andromeda, if she is, as you say, meant to be both a warrior and a lover, then she can't have made Sirius's choice. Or at least, unlike Sirius, she had to have had the sense to separate her family's politics from her family's emotional investment in her. That's the point I'm making; Andromeda would never have run away, left her mother to weep, and have then tried to then pretend her family didn't exist because bad politics or not, she clearly loves very deeply, and I can't imagine that that love wouldn't extent to members of her family (especially since even heartless Bellatrix's affection apparently does). I'm sure that if she could have loved Ted and kept in contact with her family, she would have (Tonk's archaic first name is evidence of a desire not to lose that connection, actually), her family just made that impossible for her. Unlike Sirius, she never denied her love for them or her connection to them regardless of what she believed; they did that to her, forcing her out of the family.
zanesfriendzanesfriend on July 17th, 2007 06:56 pm (UTC)
I don't know how much you know about botany, but. . .
the Narcissus and the Lilly are in the same family. Also, the Narcissus smells horrible. (And the first time we see Narcissa, aren't we told that she would have been very nice-looking if she hadn't an expression as though something nasty-smelling were being held under her nose?)

JKR uses language very precisely.
Lunar Music: luna potterpufflunar_music on July 14th, 2007 07:30 am (UTC)
I'm curious, and please don't take this wrongly: If you're willing to go to such lengths to excuse Bella's actions, what is it about her character that drew you to her? Personally, I love Mrs. Lestrange as a character because she's so messed up. She's unpredictable and dangerous, while still being as deeply devoted to Voldemort as any member of the Order is to Dumbledore.

Also, if Rodolphus recruited her for the DEs, which he very well might have, he probably did it while she was still in school. Or they could have both been recruited at the same time - according to Sirius, most of the kids that ran in the same group as they did ended up as Death Eaters. Of course, this only makes her more of a tragic character - she, and most of her friends, were corrupted in a situation where they should have been safe.

I'm pretty sure Bella meant to kill her cousin. Maybe not in quite that way, but she meant to kill him. She brags about it later, remember?

And your conclusion... so Bella's character flaws can largely be blamed on the environment she grew up in and her own vices? And insulting the fandom in general isn't going to acheive much, dear.
ryf on July 14th, 2007 09:01 am (UTC)
Okay, well, if you were already working for the Dark Lord (for who knows whatever reason), and he told you to do something... um... you do it.

Voldemort was already dead at that time-point.

No child is born a racist, people!!! Anyway, when she left school she married this guy, Rodolphus Lestrange. It was after that that they got interested in the work of the Dark Lord and both became Death Eaters. Now, how do we know that Bella knew nothing of this before, and this... Rudolph guy or whatever, like... forced her or encouraged her to join?

a) that could have been the other way around as well
b) as humans and especially as adults, we need to learn to think for ourselves - I am not denying that ubringing and friends/family factor into it, but once you are an adult, we can make decisions. Decisions not to kill and torture people, for example, decisions to go against our parents and not be racist like them. It's not easy, but it can be done.

As for her love of Unforgivable Curses... a simple addiction to power. It's human nature, actually, to enjoy committing acts that make us feel like we have more power than others, and, obviously, the Curses fall into that category, cause with them you DO have more power. It's no more sadistic than people with control issues..

Cruciatus is only about causing pain. And if you look up the defintion of saism, you will see that sadism is about causing pain. Imperius is about power and control.

But I dunno, maybe she would have killed him anyway after that, who knows

I on't think anyone denies that she would have at least tried.

So, in summarization, this whole thing can be blamed on Bella's mum, addiction to power, that Rudolph guy, and sheer stupidity and under-examination of my fandom!

Seeing as she is responsible for her own actions: No. She could have tried thinking for herself before she went to Azkaban for torturing two people into madness.
burningmarlburningmarl on July 14th, 2007 10:02 am (UTC)
the whole tone of this was immensely irritating and I feel the "you raised some good points" comments come only to lighten the criticism this will face, because your good points only amount to the very obvious.

Without the things she does being her choices, like you said in the first paragraph, what is she other than a creeping sychophant fighting for her life?

"It was after that that they got interested in the work of the Dark Lord and both became Death Eaters"
Where do you have proof?

"she was responsible for his death, by stunning him and making him fall through the veil, but she didn't actually kill him. If he had fallen somewhere else, he'd still be alive."
Wasn't she trying to push him though the veil? Like, to kill him. ANYWAY!!!! moving on!!! (to imitate your style)I wouldn't be surprised if we find out being behind the veil is utterly horrid, worse than death, and that was an intent of hers also.

"So, in summarization, this whole thing can be blamed on Bella's mum, addiction to power, that Rudolph guy, and sheer stupidity and under-examination of my fandom!"
If she were real, she'd probably feel very patronised by this. She made her choices herself. Also, if the thing about parents is always correct, how do you account for Andromeda and Sirius.

If you want a nice, kind, mentally stable character to call "lovely", why not pick one of the many? Why do you have to twist Bellatrix? I'm not saying that I'm a sadist or a racist, but you have to accept that that is her character.

Okay, you might have said that her parents, society et al influenced her joining Voldemort and doing bad things in his service - but what's the evidence that she doesn't believe it? Where is the evidence that she is "lovely"?
pixie AKA Maleficent: noble and most ancientstatic_pixie on July 14th, 2007 04:12 pm (UTC)
I wouldn't be surprised if we find out being behind the veil is utterly horrid, worse than death, and that was an intent of hers also.

Actually, I thnk you're the one reaching here. There's no evidence to suggest that Bellatrix even knew what the veil was or what would happen when someone was pushed through. She was reacting to Sirius's taunting, yes, and I think she meant for him to die eventually, but they were in the middle of this wild duel, I doubt she was purposefully lining him up with the arch. Not to mention, the hit she landed with her wand seemed to shock him, as though the spell itself were lethal.

Also, if the thing about parents is always correct, how do you account for Andromeda and Sirius.

For the record, I don't think they made the same kind of choice. Sirius wanted to leave his family, so he did. Andromeda fell in love, and the lover she chose forced her out of her family. You saw how connected Tonks got to Lupin in book 6; I bet it was something like that. Her decision had nothing to do with politics the way Sirius's did, and I don't think she'd have left the family if she hadn't met Ted. It's not as though she fights for the Order or anything like that, that's her daughter's choice.
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sea0tter12sea0tter12 on July 14th, 2007 02:53 pm (UTC)
Actually, there was an experiment done to test that theory. It seems that the human reaction is proven in the Milgram experiments -- people will act against their conscience in the name of following orders: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

The experiment was done because of the Nuremburg trials, to see if the lower level German guards were "guilty."

But I think Bella is just sick and enjoys the torture, so this doesn't really apply to her.
Could that someone be Mack the Knife?: weasley twins - kings of seventh grademizzmarvel on July 14th, 2007 11:42 am (UTC)
Baloney.
Margo! Boxcar! Saturn!chocolatepot on July 14th, 2007 01:14 pm (UTC)
I'm left wondering if you're joking. Or trolling. You don't seriously think that nothing is her own fault, do you?

It's already been said that Voldemort did not order the attack on the Longbottoms. Also, the general opinion of people who do terrible things to save themselves is pretty low, so Bella is either nasty and immoral or pathetic and amoral, really.

No, no child is born a racist - but Sirius was born into the same family, and probably had the inodctrination even worse, as he was the heir, and managed to shuck it off. Andromeda was her sister and got out. Once again, all that you've "proved" is that Bellatrix is weak and doesn't think for herself.

Sirius says in GoF that Bellatrix used to run with a crowd that all became DEs, so you can't really blame it all on Rodolphus. There's no evidence that Rodolphus got her into it, or that she was resistant at all to the idea.

The Unforgivables are much more sadistic than control issues. To cast the Cruciatus, you have to want to hurt someone really badly - and she cast it on Neville, who she had never met before, just because he was a Longbottom. And the Killing Curse is worse.

You don't know that the only reason she hated Sirius was because of her mother. That is complete conjecture. "Entirely not her fault"? Are you serious?

Way to end a poorly-thought out essay - by insulting the fandom!
cmwinterscmwinters on July 14th, 2007 09:34 pm (UTC)
I know someone else who thinks that poor Bella is just tragic and innocent and misunderstood and really a fluffy bunny at heart, so I don't think this person is joking.
krystalgamer on July 14th, 2007 01:24 pm (UTC)
Plus, on a weirder note, Bella doesn't trust Snape. This makes her smart, no?

As it was stated in the book, basically nobody trusted Snape (except for Narcissa in the face of terrifyingly dire consequences). So no, it shows that she had the same jealous judgment as every other DE. It had nothing to do with not trusting Snape IMO; it was the fact that while she was toiling away in the horrible place that was Azkaban while he had a comfortable life and STILL got to return with honors. AKA Jealousy.
anaid, the Rabbit: freakin evilanaid_rabbit on July 14th, 2007 01:53 pm (UTC)
Hilarious! I´m still laughing.
rumpelgeist on July 14th, 2007 02:20 pm (UTC)
This is neither Funny nor Informative, but it is a lovely love letter to yr favorite character so you get cookies for this. I will confess I never understand why readers try to make the evil characters less evil since their utter Ruthlessness is one of the most attractive things about them.

As for the "arguments" they are justifications not proof of innocence.
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Deccaboo: HP: Unbreakable Vowdeccaboo on July 15th, 2007 09:25 pm (UTC)
"it is interesting that Bellatrix appears to be the only female Death Eater."

We briefly met a female DE called Alecto at the end of HBP, so there are some female DE's but I think Voldy is fairly old fashioned about this and probably thinks that unless a woman is exceptionally good at committing violent acts and mayhem, she isn't good enough to be a Death Eater. Bellatrix is held in quite high esteem by the Dark Lord because of her intense loyalty and very obsessive love for him, he obviously enjoys having her as his right-hand woman because of her love for violence.

I don't think Bellatrix needs her behaviour to be excused in this way, it is in her nature to be like this and I don't think changing her parents or her school friends or her husband would change the fact that she is pretty rotten to the core...and I love her character for that reason.
angel: Maskangelnomoon on July 14th, 2007 03:04 pm (UTC)
There is a difference between innocence, and innocence. No, she is not innocent. It was her hand on the wand destroying the lives of people during the first Death Eater Crusade. It was her hand on the wand that killed Sirius Black.

If she was innocent, she would have made the brave choice her sister -Andromdea- made. Like Dumbles has said, it is the choices that make us who we are.

Bella is at fault for choosing to go with what she grew up around. She chose to follow in the footsteps of those before, she chose to take up the wand and do whatever was necessary to bring about the new world order that she choose believed in.

Perhaps she was not "crazy" before she chose to do these things. But the magic that she continued to use and continues to this day, takes a toll on the sanity of the user.

So, in that, I do disagree with your argument.
pixie AKA Maleficent: noble and most ancientstatic_pixie on July 14th, 2007 04:29 pm (UTC)
You know, I think JKR has specifically stated that Bellatrix is a sadist who enjoys torture. I mean, in book 5 Bellatrix even said it, you have to really wantto cause pain in order to made the crucio work. And the fact that someone would want to cause so much pain in people she doesn't even really know (Harry, the Longbottoms, whoever else she's tortured) speaks to her being sadistic. Whoever said it above was right, Imperious is the curse that's all about will. I mean, the cruelest thing Bellatrix has ever done she did before she went into Azkaban (the Longbottoms) and she did that of her own volition after the Dark Lord was dead. She threatens to torture small children. There's really no denying that, deranged or not, she's always gotten a kick out of the pain of others (although I do think that there are a lot of parallels here between her and her dear cousin Sirius that tend to get overlooked by fandom).

There's no evidence to suggest that he husband made her do anything, in fact, I think a lot of evidence suggests the opposite since Bellatrix herself seems so willful (I think she'd have made a good Gryffindor if she hadn't been in Slytherin). You diminish the character when you suggest that anyone pushed her into it.

Not to mention, I think a lot of her not trusting Snape has to do with her own desire to be the Dark Lord's #1 follower. I kind of do hope this essay is a joke because what you're saying here relies on no canon evidence and completely twists the character. You want to appreciate Bellatrix, appreciate her ability to lead, the fact that she's risen to the top in what's for the most part an all-boys club, appreciate the way that her presence left even Harry somewhat entranced. She could have been something great if she'd never met the Dark Lord and hadn't wasted 14 years of her life in Azkaban, and I think that's the true tragedy you get when you look at Bellatrix. But I think you also have to admit that all of the strengths I mentioned above have been used in the service of evil and that no matter what, at this point, there's no way to paint Bellatrix as any kind of innocent. She made her choice, and unlike (for instance) Lucius Malfoy, doesn't seem to regret it at all.
cmwinterscmwinters on July 14th, 2007 09:32 pm (UTC)
"I think JKR has specifically stated that Bellatrix is a sadist who enjoys torture."
I thought she had too, but now I can't find the quote. If you find it will you please let me know? I kind of need it for a discussion.
pixie AKA Maleficent: noble and most ancientstatic_pixie on July 16th, 2007 04:30 pm (UTC)
Actually, I might have been wrong here. I think it was Helena Bonham Carter who called her a sadist, actually. Or just the lexicon. Sorry. >.>
ebailey140 on July 16th, 2007 08:37 am (UTC)

Regarding her not trusting Severus... Here's where things get complicated. She's the Dark Lord's most loyal follower, yes. But, even though she was griping about it the whole way, when Cissy was acting directly against Tom's wishes to protect her son, Bella stuck with her sister, doing her part in creating the Unbreakable Vow. She just didn't think they could trust Severus to go along with it. That's where she was shocked.

The Power the Dark Lord Knows Not is Love, and, frankly, we saw this exhibited in HBP by the "bad guys" far more than by the "good guys". Draco is acting solely to protect his mother and father, who he loves. Cissy is acting solely to protect Draco. Bella is acting to protect Cissy. The Power the Dark Lord Knows Not is leading his own most loyal followers to act against him. Lucius, I expect, will betray the Dark Lord in a heartbeat if it will protect his wife and son.

Bella's loyal to the Dark Lord, but she may be even more loyal to her sisters.
Deccaboo: HP: Unbreakable Vowdeccaboo on July 15th, 2007 09:14 pm (UTC)
I don't agree. I love Bellatrix because she is so unashamedly evil. Her reason for torturing Frank and Alice was not because Voldy told her to. He had already been 'defeated' by Harry at that time and the Longbottoms were tortured for information on Voldy's possible whereabouts. Bellatrix wanted to bring Voldemort back so that she could carry on with her pretty cushy life doing all the things she liked, chief among them being carrying out the Cruciatus Curse on whoever she wanted. We know from canon that the Cruciatus Curse is her spell of choice, she even instructs Harry on how to perform it best in OotP; she tells him to freely hate her and enjoy the pain it causes because that makes the force of the curse stronger. She'd only know this if she genuinely *did* love to use that curse to maim others.

I don't think Bellatrix needs an apologist essay really, she's gloriously criminally insane and I love her character for it. I think she is and always has been a nasty piece of work, some people just are like that. She was probably the kid who set ants on fire using a magnifying glass and loved to hear the crunch of snail shells under her feet. It would have only been a matter of time before she looked for bigger prey.

As for Rodolphus Lestrange being the evil-influence, we'll most likely never know, but since we've never even heard him speak yet and Bella is more than capable of opening her mouth and showing us just how nasty and crazy she really is, my money is on that she was the one who persuaded him into following the Dark Lord. Bellatrix is positively obsessive about Voldy and I have a feeling that if he told her to off her own husband she would do it and do it willingly. Bellatrix isn't like Wormtail. She wouldn't do things for Voldy out of fear of what he would do to her or do to the people she loves, she does things for Voldy because they're on the same wavelength. He knows she adores violence and will do pretty much anything he asks because she enjoys it so much and she will gladly do as he commands because she really loves torturing other people. Again, some people are just like that.

Azkaban probably brought it out of her more than ever, but I think Bellatrix was well on her way to crazy before she was sent down. We are told in Order of the Phoenix that many of Voldemort's supporters only did what he asked because they were frightened of what he would do if they refused. Once Voldemort disappeared high profile DE's like Lucius Malfoy started spreading the gold around to protect their names. They didn't go out and attack Muggles and other wizards to try to find Voldy. Bellatrix did. She sought out the Longbottoms and tortured them, probably knowing that it was a long-shot that they would know something about Voldemort's apparent 'death'. In short, Bellatrix is much more dangerous than Voldemort's other DE's because she adores violence and cannot be reasoned with. She commits violence with and without Voldemort's knowledge and consent!
ebailey140 on July 16th, 2007 08:25 am (UTC)
Actually, I suspect Tom got to the sisters when they were young, very young. Unlike Roddy and Lucius, Bella, Andy, and Cissy had a direct blood tie to Tom's first circle of Death Eaters through their mother, Druella Rosier. There was a Rosier that was part of Tom's inner circle at Hogwarts, and was part of that first circle of DEs waiting for Tom during his DADA interview. I'd guess that Rosier to have been a close relative of Druella's, probably a brother.

Tom wanted to teach. That's why he went after the DADA job, so he could reach and shape impressionable young minds. Rosier would have certainly offered his three nieces to be shaped. I suspect when Harry finally tracks down the elusive Andromeda, she'll have a lot to say to him.
cara_kitsunecara_kitsune on October 28th, 2007 03:08 pm (UTC)
Honey, we love Bellatrix BECAUSE she's a crazy, sadistic bitch, not despite that. Take away her evil and she has no point.